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		<title>By: Mr. Alex</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 06:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason:

Thanks for the comment.

Actually, I just read that on the basis of work by a group called Calcar that has developed technologies for making a Prius a plug-in hybrid, Toyota is actually thinking about making them that way at the factory.

THAT would be cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason:</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.</p>
<p>Actually, I just read that on the basis of work by a group called Calcar that has developed technologies for making a Prius a plug-in hybrid, Toyota is actually thinking about making them that way at the factory.</p>
<p>THAT would be cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this comment is a little out of date, but I was perusing your past blog history and ran across this article.  

There are companies who will convert your hybrid vehicle to allow recharging of the battery by the grid.  On company in Boulder, CO called Hybrids Plus say that they replace the NiMH battery pack with a lithium ion pack to allow more storage capacity and install a custom made charging unit.  They do this on a Prius for ~$20,000.  recently they said that the price will drop significantly due to improvements in manufacturing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this comment is a little out of date, but I was perusing your past blog history and ran across this article.  </p>
<p>There are companies who will convert your hybrid vehicle to allow recharging of the battery by the grid.  On company in Boulder, CO called Hybrids Plus say that they replace the NiMH battery pack with a lithium ion pack to allow more storage capacity and install a custom made charging unit.  They do this on a Prius for ~$20,000.  recently they said that the price will drop significantly due to improvements in manufacturing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Monkey</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 22:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Alex,

Iâ€™m sorry to bogart the blog, but I clicked on one of the â€œAds by Goooooogleâ€ (Sometimes those have some interesting stuff.), and I found a nice bit of synchronicity. If you click on the Edmunds link to the right (â€œCar Gas Mileageâ€), youâ€™ll see this headline: â€œWill GM Win the Great Plug-In Hybrid Race?â€ Then, if you click on that, it talks about GMâ€™s EV1 and â€œWho Killed the Electric Car?â€ (which focuses on the EV1).

Sincerely,
Mr. Monkey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Alex,</p>
<p>Iâ€™m sorry to bogart the blog, but I clicked on one of the â€œAds by Goooooogleâ€ (Sometimes those have some interesting stuff.), and I found a nice bit of synchronicity. If you click on the Edmunds link to the right (â€œCar Gas Mileageâ€), youâ€™ll see this headline: â€œWill GM Win the Great Plug-In Hybrid Race?â€ Then, if you click on that, it talks about GMâ€™s EV1 and â€œWho Killed the Electric Car?â€ (which focuses on the EV1).</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Mr. Monkey</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Monkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr.Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 21:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DMA,

Hereâ€™s Ira Flatowâ€™s discussion with the Chris Paine (the director of â€œWho Killed the Electric Car?â€), Bill Moore (the publisher of EVWorld.com), and callers talking about *EVs, *HVs, converting cars with *ICEs into *EVs, and converting *HVs into *PHEVs or *GO-HEVs.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5524918

*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_hybrid_electric_vehicle

SY,
MM

P.S. BTW, TMS initially considered an SUV HV, but they thought it wasnâ€™t PC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DMA,</p>
<p>Hereâ€™s Ira Flatowâ€™s discussion with the Chris Paine (the director of â€œWho Killed the Electric Car?â€), Bill Moore (the publisher of EVWorld.com), and callers talking about *EVs, *HVs, converting cars with *ICEs into *EVs, and converting *HVs into *PHEVs or *GO-HEVs.<br />
<a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5524918" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5524918</a></p>
<p>*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_hybrid_electric_vehicle</p>
<p>SY,<br />
MM</p>
<p>P.S. BTW, TMS initially considered an SUV HV, but they thought it wasnâ€™t PC.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Monkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr.Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 20:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it odd that the hybrid car wasnâ€™t originally released [to run on batteries alone]. From what I understand, the [car-makersâ€™] marketing departments seemed to think that hybrids wouldnâ€™t sell if they had a plug. [They] reasoned that the more they seemed like â€œregularâ€ cars, the better.

DMA (Dear Mr. Alex),

Do you GUWRAYDK (get unhappy when reading acronyms* you donâ€™t know)? ID (I do). BNS.

Anywho, HYS (have you seen) â€œWho Killed the Electric Car?â€
http://www.sonyclassics.com/whokilledtheelectriccar/
http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/223/index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Killed_the_Electric_Car%3F
Itâ€™s a bit polemical, so itâ€™s hard to know what really â€” â€œobjectivelyâ€ speaking â€” happened. However, it does seem as though the only reason American car manufacturers attempted producing electric cars was to meet Californiaâ€™s ZEV (Zero Emission Vehicle) Mandate, which required two percent of the state's vehicles to have no emissions by 1998 and 10 percent by 2003. And it also seems clear that they stopped once the ZEV Mandate was eliminated, which was probably the net result of lobbying by American car manufacturers.

I don't really know why the Prius wasnâ€™t originally released to run on batteries alone, but what follows is my uneducated musings, SIS (stuff I stole), or my WR (web report):

Toyota didnâ€™t start with an electric car in mind; instead, they tried to put a CYA (cover your ass) plan into effect for a company that already made cars with ICEs (internal combustion engine). Also, they initially had a lot of problems with the batteries, so that wasnâ€™t something they wanted to stress.
â€œThe car that became the Prius began life in 1993, when Eiji Toyoda, Toyota's chairman and the patriarch of its ruling family, expressed concern about the future of the automobile. Yoshiro Kimbara, then executive vice president in charge of R&#38;D, â€¦ embarked on a project known as G21 (for global 21st century) to develop a new small car that could be sold worldwide. He set two goals: to develop new production methods and to wring better fuel economy from the traditional internal combustion engine. His target was 47.5 miles per gallon, a little more than 50% better than what the Corolla, Toyota's popular small car, was getting at the time.â€
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2006/03/06/8370702/index.htm
(This site also talks more about the technological and marketing problems they faced.)

â€œWatching developments from across the Pacific were the product planners at the company's U.S. division, Toyota Motor Sales, in Torrance, Calif. The TMS planners had first heard about hybrids at a meeting in Japan in 1995. â€˜It was all new and unconventional,â€™ recalls marketing executive Mark Amstock. â€˜There was skepticism within the company about whether the hybrids were really cars.â€™ Early consumer research in the U.S. supported the skeptics. â€˜It wasn't clear that better fuel economy alone could drive premium pricing," says Andrew Coetzee, now vice president of product planning for TMS. [â€˜It's difficult to build consumer technology awareness,â€™ says Chris Hostetter, now vice president of advanced-product strategy. â€˜Consumers would have to be taught that the car didn't come with an extension cord. Dealers would have to be trained on how to sell the car and service it.â€™] But another factor was at play at TMS: the ever more stringent emission targets set by the California Air Resources Board [i.e. the ZEV Mandate]. Gradually support began to build around hybrid's ecological potential.â€ http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2006/03/06/8370702/index.htm

When the cars came out, they proved to be quite successful in both Japan (starting in 1997) and the U.S. (starting in 2000). One of the reasons that it was successful was marketingâ€™s favorite new color: green â€” as in ecologically friendly (not $), as in a bastardized marketing version which doesnâ€™t really care about being green (ecologically friendly) but green ($). And, ironically (or not), this success probably made it less likely that Toyota will make a Prius that runs on batteries alone:
â€œ â€˜We just went to Toyota and we asked them about all this grassroots demand for plug-in hybrids and the Prius seems like the obvious first car to start with and people are making them in their garages. Why don't you build a plug-in Prius?â€™ and they said, â€˜Because we don't have to. So many people are buying the gas-burning version we don't need to build anything else.â€™ â€
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2006/06/22/exclusive-qanda-with-chelsea-sexton-about-the-ev1-why-the-priu/

Thank you for reading my WR.

SY (Sincerely yours),
MM (Mr. Monkey)

*I donâ€™t hate all acronyms. I just hate it when pages are filled with acronyms â€” for example bureaucratese, serious and â€œseriousâ€ disciplines (e.g., medical stuff on the one hand and literary theory on the other), IMing, and blogs. (I teach ESL ((English as a Second Language)), and itâ€™s filled with acronyms, too.) I think that acronyms should simplify life by making it easier to communicate (which, in fact, they do for people who understand them), but Iâ€™ve become a crotchety old man who doesnâ€™t understand what youngins are saying, and I donâ€™t like it!

Oh, I DO like words that are actually acronyms that many people donâ€™t know are acronyms â€” like radar, scuba, and laser. Do any of you know any more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it odd that the hybrid car wasnâ€™t originally released [to run on batteries alone]. From what I understand, the [car-makersâ€™] marketing departments seemed to think that hybrids wouldnâ€™t sell if they had a plug. [They] reasoned that the more they seemed like â€œregularâ€ cars, the better.</p>
<p>DMA (Dear Mr. Alex),</p>
<p>Do you GUWRAYDK (get unhappy when reading acronyms* you donâ€™t know)? ID (I do). BNS.</p>
<p>Anywho, HYS (have you seen) â€œWho Killed the Electric Car?â€<br />
<a href="http://www.sonyclassics.com/whokilledtheelectriccar/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sonyclassics.com/whokilledtheelectriccar/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/223/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/223/index.html</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Killed_the_Electric_Car%3F" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Killed_the_Electric_Car%3F</a><br />
Itâ€™s a bit polemical, so itâ€™s hard to know what really â€” â€œobjectivelyâ€ speaking â€” happened. However, it does seem as though the only reason American car manufacturers attempted producing electric cars was to meet Californiaâ€™s ZEV (Zero Emission Vehicle) Mandate, which required two percent of the state&#8217;s vehicles to have no emissions by 1998 and 10 percent by 2003. And it also seems clear that they stopped once the ZEV Mandate was eliminated, which was probably the net result of lobbying by American car manufacturers.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really know why the Prius wasnâ€™t originally released to run on batteries alone, but what follows is my uneducated musings, SIS (stuff I stole), or my WR (web report):</p>
<p>Toyota didnâ€™t start with an electric car in mind; instead, they tried to put a CYA (cover your ass) plan into effect for a company that already made cars with ICEs (internal combustion engine). Also, they initially had a lot of problems with the batteries, so that wasnâ€™t something they wanted to stress.<br />
â€œThe car that became the Prius began life in 1993, when Eiji Toyoda, Toyota&#8217;s chairman and the patriarch of its ruling family, expressed concern about the future of the automobile. Yoshiro Kimbara, then executive vice president in charge of R&amp;D, â€¦ embarked on a project known as G21 (for global 21st century) to develop a new small car that could be sold worldwide. He set two goals: to develop new production methods and to wring better fuel economy from the traditional internal combustion engine. His target was 47.5 miles per gallon, a little more than 50% better than what the Corolla, Toyota&#8217;s popular small car, was getting at the time.â€<br />
<a href="http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2006/03/06/8370702/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2006/03/06/8370702/index.htm</a><br />
(This site also talks more about the technological and marketing problems they faced.)</p>
<p>â€œWatching developments from across the Pacific were the product planners at the company&#8217;s U.S. division, Toyota Motor Sales, in Torrance, Calif. The TMS planners had first heard about hybrids at a meeting in Japan in 1995. â€˜It was all new and unconventional,â€™ recalls marketing executive Mark Amstock. â€˜There was skepticism within the company about whether the hybrids were really cars.â€™ Early consumer research in the U.S. supported the skeptics. â€˜It wasn&#8217;t clear that better fuel economy alone could drive premium pricing,&#8221; says Andrew Coetzee, now vice president of product planning for TMS. [â€˜It&#8217;s difficult to build consumer technology awareness,â€™ says Chris Hostetter, now vice president of advanced-product strategy. â€˜Consumers would have to be taught that the car didn&#8217;t come with an extension cord. Dealers would have to be trained on how to sell the car and service it.â€™] But another factor was at play at TMS: the ever more stringent emission targets set by the California Air Resources Board [i.e. the ZEV Mandate]. Gradually support began to build around hybrid&#8217;s ecological potential.â€ <a href="http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2006/03/06/8370702/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2006/03/06/8370702/index.htm</a></p>
<p>When the cars came out, they proved to be quite successful in both Japan (starting in 1997) and the U.S. (starting in 2000). One of the reasons that it was successful was marketingâ€™s favorite new color: green â€” as in ecologically friendly (not $), as in a bastardized marketing version which doesnâ€™t really care about being green (ecologically friendly) but green ($). And, ironically (or not), this success probably made it less likely that Toyota will make a Prius that runs on batteries alone:<br />
â€œ â€˜We just went to Toyota and we asked them about all this grassroots demand for plug-in hybrids and the Prius seems like the obvious first car to start with and people are making them in their garages. Why don&#8217;t you build a plug-in Prius?â€™ and they said, â€˜Because we don&#8217;t have to. So many people are buying the gas-burning version we don&#8217;t need to build anything else.â€™ â€<br />
<a href="http://www.autobloggreen.com/2006/06/22/exclusive-qanda-with-chelsea-sexton-about-the-ev1-why-the-priu/" rel="nofollow">http://www.autobloggreen.com/2006/06/22/exclusive-qanda-with-chelsea-sexton-about-the-ev1-why-the-priu/</a></p>
<p>Thank you for reading my WR.</p>
<p>SY (Sincerely yours),<br />
MM (Mr. Monkey)</p>
<p>*I donâ€™t hate all acronyms. I just hate it when pages are filled with acronyms â€” for example bureaucratese, serious and â€œseriousâ€ disciplines (e.g., medical stuff on the one hand and literary theory on the other), IMing, and blogs. (I teach ESL ((English as a Second Language)), and itâ€™s filled with acronyms, too.) I think that acronyms should simplify life by making it easier to communicate (which, in fact, they do for people who understand them), but Iâ€™ve become a crotchety old man who doesnâ€™t understand what youngins are saying, and I donâ€™t like it!</p>
<p>Oh, I DO like words that are actually acronyms that many people donâ€™t know are acronyms â€” like radar, scuba, and laser. Do any of you know any more?</p>
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Good news to all eco-friendly car enthusiasts. There is an increase of 28% from last yearÂ’s 254,545 and this number pertains to those new registered hybrids. ItÂ’s good news for environmentalists and hybrid makers knowing that the demand did quite slo...</description>
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<p>Good news to all eco-friendly car enthusiasts. There is an increase of 28% from last yearÂ’s 254,545 and this number pertains to those new registered hybrids. ItÂ’s good news for environmentalists and hybrid makers knowing that the demand did quite slo&#8230;</p>
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